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	<title>Comments on: Videocast #3 &#8211; Chemex/Pourover</title>
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		<title>By: Eric H</title>
		<link>http://www.squaremileblog.com/2008/12/27/videocast-3-chemexpourover/comment-page-1/#comment-1922</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great video, who did that remix of the Stones song?</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Blair</title>
		<link>http://www.squaremileblog.com/2008/12/27/videocast-3-chemexpourover/comment-page-1/#comment-1072</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Blair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 03:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice one James
Luca directed me here after a question on Coffee Snobs forum regarding the paper taste from chemex papers. I actually prefer the Nero Sock instead of the paper as the single cup one fits nice inside the small chemex I have.

Cheers

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice one James<br />
Luca directed me here after a question on Coffee Snobs forum regarding the paper taste from chemex papers. I actually prefer the Nero Sock instead of the paper as the single cup one fits nice inside the small chemex I have.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Hoffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 22:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am way out of my league here, having just graduated from a Bodum Electric Santos (using store-bought ground coffee at 1Tbls/cup indicated) to now having a new Chemex on the way (thermal breaker broke) and freshly roasted and ground coffee.

It seems that like anything, people can get as much into something as they want and fuss over the details.  That&#039;s fine, this is a new hobby for me so we&#039;ll see if I too obsess over it as the coffee becomes noticeably better tasting.

My question for Scott and everyone else, is why not just use a simple garden watering can?  Even pour from a shower-head-like device without risking infringement on the Raomatic?  Plus for those of us looking for a pour over kettle, the garden can comes in larger capacities than the fairly small Hario shown above.

If there is a problem with this method I&#039;d like to know, but if not, a simple Amazon search points here: http://www.amazon.com/Gardman-WC4007-1-32GAL-Large-Stainless/dp/B000WEIKS8/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&amp;s=hi&amp;qid=1244414904&amp;sr=8-9
Stainless, and I can&#039;t think of a reason why you couldn&#039;t heat right on a burner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am way out of my league here, having just graduated from a Bodum Electric Santos (using store-bought ground coffee at 1Tbls/cup indicated) to now having a new Chemex on the way (thermal breaker broke) and freshly roasted and ground coffee.</p>
<p>It seems that like anything, people can get as much into something as they want and fuss over the details.  That&#8217;s fine, this is a new hobby for me so we&#8217;ll see if I too obsess over it as the coffee becomes noticeably better tasting.</p>
<p>My question for Scott and everyone else, is why not just use a simple garden watering can?  Even pour from a shower-head-like device without risking infringement on the Raomatic?  Plus for those of us looking for a pour over kettle, the garden can comes in larger capacities than the fairly small Hario shown above.</p>
<p>If there is a problem with this method I&#8217;d like to know, but if not, a simple Amazon search points here: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Gardman-WC4007-1-32GAL-Large-Stainless/dp/B000WEIKS8/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&amp;s=hi&amp;qid=1244414904&amp;sr=8-9" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Gardman-WC4007-1-32GAL-Large-Stainless/dp/B000WEIKS8/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&amp;s=hi&amp;qid=1244414904&amp;sr=8-9</a><br />
Stainless, and I can&#8217;t think of a reason why you couldn&#8217;t heat right on a burner.</p>
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		<title>By: paul kurtz</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul kurtz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Scott is sharing is exactly right. I too have played a lot with this and I either pour quickly and agitate (carefully) or very slowly as to not allow the bloom or grounds to float up too high and hang up and out of the action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Scott is sharing is exactly right. I too have played a lot with this and I either pour quickly and agitate (carefully) or very slowly as to not allow the bloom or grounds to float up too high and hang up and out of the action.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Rao</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Rao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, This technique is quite flawed.  It WILL and almost certainly did result in very uneven extraction.  Even before trying it, one can see that the grounds at the top/sides that stick to the filter spend a great deal of the drawdown (drainage) time NOT extracting, while the grounds in the middle spend much more time extracting.  Based on the timer in your video, your pour ended around 1:11, and around 1:25 grounds at the top were clearly sticking to the filter and were no longer extracting as the level of the coffee in the filter started to drop.  The drainage continued until 3:45 and for that 2:20 progressively more grounds were sticking to the sides of the filter and were no longer participating in the extraction. 

Your resulting brew was one of two types:  either you had proper brew strength but underextracted grounds at the top and overextracted grounds at the bottom, or your brew strength was a little low and the bottom was properly extracted and top grounds underextracted. (Given your standard water: grounds ratio, total extraction time, and batch size, it&#039;s less likely your grind was so fine that the brew strength was too high)

I believe this because I&#039;ve brewed thousands of one-cup pourovers in the past few months and have taken hundreds of readings with the extractMOJO refractometer and have tasted those hundreds of cups and played with an ungodly number of variations of pouring techniques. 

If you doubt I am correct, I invite you to make a chemex with your technique, excavate a section of spent grounds from the top of the filter, excavate another section of grounds from the bottom of the filter, dehydrate the two samples, and then re-brew them using any immersion method and identical brewing parameters.  Then check the respective brew strengths of the two re-brewed cups, and you will find the coffee made with the spent grounds from the top of filter has much higher brew strength.  (Because those grounds were much less extracted the first time around and have a lot more extractable solids remaining.  This test is a trick borrowed from Jim Schulman&#039;s excellent brain.

The only answers I know to this pouring problem for chemex or any pourover percolation brew are to use a fair amount of agitation (not recommended because it is dicey and nearly impossible to replicate brew-to-brew) or to shower the water onto the grounds at a much slower rate.  Much like in an auto-drip brewer, the flow rate of water onto the grounds should be similar to the flow rate of coffee out of the filter.  The key is to not let the grounds rise too high in the filter, because in a pure percolation system (i.e. not a steep-and-release like the &quot;abid brewer&quot; I hear you have) the drainage will be slow and too much of the grounds will stick high up on the filter and too early in the process these grounds will cease to participate in the extraction.  A flat or slightly domed bed of spent grounds (much like a syphon dome) is visible evidence of even extraction.
 
At Cafe Myriade we have rigged up a &quot;shower head&quot; of sorts (affectionately dubbed the &quot;Raomatic&quot; by Anthony) that allows us to pour boiling water into the shower head and have it dispensed at the proper temperature and flow rate onto the grounds.  The difference between the cups brewed with the shower head and those brewed by manually pouring the water is dramatic. (Unless you want to stand and pour through the entire brewing cycle AND have an impressive ability to pour at a consistent rate.)  The shower-head brews are far superior and also perfectly repeatable.

You could also simply pour your water onto the grounds at a much slower rate (say, over a 3-minute time), keeping the grounds from risisng too high.  That will improve the evenness of the extraction, though you may have to change your grind to get the best-tasting cup.

Respectfully yours,
Scott Rao</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, This technique is quite flawed.  It WILL and almost certainly did result in very uneven extraction.  Even before trying it, one can see that the grounds at the top/sides that stick to the filter spend a great deal of the drawdown (drainage) time NOT extracting, while the grounds in the middle spend much more time extracting.  Based on the timer in your video, your pour ended around 1:11, and around 1:25 grounds at the top were clearly sticking to the filter and were no longer extracting as the level of the coffee in the filter started to drop.  The drainage continued until 3:45 and for that 2:20 progressively more grounds were sticking to the sides of the filter and were no longer participating in the extraction. </p>
<p>Your resulting brew was one of two types:  either you had proper brew strength but underextracted grounds at the top and overextracted grounds at the bottom, or your brew strength was a little low and the bottom was properly extracted and top grounds underextracted. (Given your standard water: grounds ratio, total extraction time, and batch size, it&#8217;s less likely your grind was so fine that the brew strength was too high)</p>
<p>I believe this because I&#8217;ve brewed thousands of one-cup pourovers in the past few months and have taken hundreds of readings with the extractMOJO refractometer and have tasted those hundreds of cups and played with an ungodly number of variations of pouring techniques. </p>
<p>If you doubt I am correct, I invite you to make a chemex with your technique, excavate a section of spent grounds from the top of the filter, excavate another section of grounds from the bottom of the filter, dehydrate the two samples, and then re-brew them using any immersion method and identical brewing parameters.  Then check the respective brew strengths of the two re-brewed cups, and you will find the coffee made with the spent grounds from the top of filter has much higher brew strength.  (Because those grounds were much less extracted the first time around and have a lot more extractable solids remaining.  This test is a trick borrowed from Jim Schulman&#8217;s excellent brain.</p>
<p>The only answers I know to this pouring problem for chemex or any pourover percolation brew are to use a fair amount of agitation (not recommended because it is dicey and nearly impossible to replicate brew-to-brew) or to shower the water onto the grounds at a much slower rate.  Much like in an auto-drip brewer, the flow rate of water onto the grounds should be similar to the flow rate of coffee out of the filter.  The key is to not let the grounds rise too high in the filter, because in a pure percolation system (i.e. not a steep-and-release like the &#8220;abid brewer&#8221; I hear you have) the drainage will be slow and too much of the grounds will stick high up on the filter and too early in the process these grounds will cease to participate in the extraction.  A flat or slightly domed bed of spent grounds (much like a syphon dome) is visible evidence of even extraction.</p>
<p>At Cafe Myriade we have rigged up a &#8220;shower head&#8221; of sorts (affectionately dubbed the &#8220;Raomatic&#8221; by Anthony) that allows us to pour boiling water into the shower head and have it dispensed at the proper temperature and flow rate onto the grounds.  The difference between the cups brewed with the shower head and those brewed by manually pouring the water is dramatic. (Unless you want to stand and pour through the entire brewing cycle AND have an impressive ability to pour at a consistent rate.)  The shower-head brews are far superior and also perfectly repeatable.</p>
<p>You could also simply pour your water onto the grounds at a much slower rate (say, over a 3-minute time), keeping the grounds from risisng too high.  That will improve the evenness of the extraction, though you may have to change your grind to get the best-tasting cup.</p>
<p>Respectfully yours,<br />
Scott Rao</p>
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		<title>By: Neuling ,nur Handfiltern - Kaffee-Netz - Die Community rund ums Thema Kaffee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neuling ,nur Handfiltern - Kaffee-Netz - Die Community rund ums Thema Kaffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Neuling ,nur Handfiltern      Das Video im Squaremile Coffee Blog oder der direkte Link zu Vimeo … jimseven.com ist manchmal elendig langsam (bis [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rob berghmans</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob berghmans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the vid.
I work with my Chemex since 2 years, but always thought it missed something.
And now I see I never rinsed the paper!!!
And didn&#039;t use the right kettle I guess. 

This week we&#039;ll get the Chemex out of the Kitchen Cabinet for new brews. 
Keep up the good work James.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the vid.<br />
I work with my Chemex since 2 years, but always thought it missed something.<br />
And now I see I never rinsed the paper!!!<br />
And didn&#8217;t use the right kettle I guess. </p>
<p>This week we&#8217;ll get the Chemex out of the Kitchen Cabinet for new brews.<br />
Keep up the good work James.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Kirton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Kirton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 18:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to see the Chemex video finally made it to your blog.
I have a slightly different technique.  I brew at 75g/l choosing either 30g:400ml in the 3 cup or 60g:800ml in the 6 cup as I find a better cup results from brewing as close to a full pot as possible.
2ml/g for 30 seconds to bloom, then slowly (stop start, stop start) pouring only to the centre &#039;feed&#039; the bloom until it forms a large convex dome about 2/3 the way up the filter cone, looking like it is just about to break.  Then slowly pour the remainder of the water in a spiral from the centre to the edge.
I have also found that the Chemex is quite sensitive to the grind, just the slightest bit too fine and it quickly begins to taste over extracted.
Using a pouring kettle makes all the difference, and it makes it a lot easier to wash the sides of the filter paper too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to see the Chemex video finally made it to your blog.<br />
I have a slightly different technique.  I brew at 75g/l choosing either 30g:400ml in the 3 cup or 60g:800ml in the 6 cup as I find a better cup results from brewing as close to a full pot as possible.<br />
2ml/g for 30 seconds to bloom, then slowly (stop start, stop start) pouring only to the centre &#8216;feed&#8217; the bloom until it forms a large convex dome about 2/3 the way up the filter cone, looking like it is just about to break.  Then slowly pour the remainder of the water in a spiral from the centre to the edge.<br />
I have also found that the Chemex is quite sensitive to the grind, just the slightest bit too fine and it quickly begins to taste over extracted.<br />
Using a pouring kettle makes all the difference, and it makes it a lot easier to wash the sides of the filter paper too.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool video. I really like your tips and advice. Oh and very good choice of soundtrack too. Keep them coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool video. I really like your tips and advice. Oh and very good choice of soundtrack too. Keep them coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Chemex/ Pourover &#171; Coffee is Food</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chemex/ Pourover &#171; Coffee is Food</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]   Published December 31, 2008   brewing , coffee       James Hoffmann published a nice video on Chemex brewing. I was glad to see this since I have had a long learning curve with this method. Nice informative [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]   Published December 31, 2008   brewing , coffee       James Hoffmann published a nice video on Chemex brewing. I was glad to see this since I have had a long learning curve with this method. Nice informative [...]</p>
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